Carlos Nuñez talks with Christina Roden about the new traditions of Galicia
The reedy, haunting sound of the bagpipe is heard all over the world, from
the Celtic nations to Eastern Europe. One of the most fascinating traditions
has developed in Galicia on the north-western coast of Spain. Their version
of the instrument is called the gaita and Carlos Nuñez is its acknowledged
master.
Galician music evolved partly from being geographically cut off from the rest
of Spain. Whether this green and hilly land is actually a Celtic nation is
debatable, but Nuñez is philosophical about the controversy. "It's more like
a common dream." he says slowly, "One thing that is important to consider is
the sea. In early times, to go to from Galicia to Ireland in a boat was
easier than going to Madrid or Barcelona by horse. Even today, Galicians go
to Ireland to fish." Whatever the truth of the matter, Galician music is
remarkably compatible with Celtic styles. The muiñeira is the Galician
equivalent of a jig, and alalás resemble slow airs, so players from any of
the Six Nations (Ireland, Scotland, Isle Of Man, Wales, Brittany, Cornwall)
can find a common thread and join in. Asked which Celtic styles attract him
the most he replies, "I think they are all interesting. Years ago, Scotland
was the best known in Galicia; the whiskey, the kilts, the pipes. No one knew
about Ireland 15 years ago. Now, they know about the Chieftains - and
Guiness!" He diplomatically admires several bagpipers. "When I started to
play, I thought the best pipers were Scottish, but then I discovered the
Irish players... and the players from Bulgaria!"
Modern Galician tunes harbor intense medieval echoes, which in turn contain
Arabic traces from the Crusades, the conquered Moorish kingdom of Granada and
an ancient pilgrimage route that terminates at the Cathedral Of Santiago de
Compostela in Galicia. "There was always a special feeling for early music in
Galicia." Nuñez agrees, "Before I discovered rock n' roll, I loved medieval
music and early music. I started to play the recorder before the pipes. My
'two girls' are the pipes and the flute." he pauses with a mock-sultry
grimace, "The flute is more platonic but the pipes can be pure sex!"
Nuñez was born in the coastal town of Vigo and fell - literally - in love
with the gaita as a child. "The first time I heard a gaita, I fainted!" he
recalls with a grin. Despite the fact that he probably looked like he was
wrestling with an octopus, he was already a notable performer by his early
teens, when he was invited to play with the Lorient Festival Orchestra in
Brittany. "I was with a pipe band from Galicia and they traveled to Lorient.
Then, I was invited to play with a Breton pipe band and a symphony orchestra
in Lorient. Nobody could believe it!" Not that it was all work and no play -
"I had two important experiences in Lorient." he says impishly, "I drank
Guiness for the first time and I blew on a bombarde (a notoriously skittish
Breton double reed)! It was a perfect combination!"
The youthful virtuoso soon came to the attention of Paddy Moloney of the
Chieftains. "I first met Paddy in Vigo when I was 13. Then, when I was at the
conservatory in Lorient, I played something Galician and something Irish on
the pipes for him. Two years later we met again in Galicia and he asked
'Would you like to play with us tonight?' So, I chose a Galician jig. Five
minutes before the concert, Paddy asked me, 'Carlos, please play the tune for
us a couple of times.' Then we went onstage and played it together. It was
fantastic, a very special moment - and my eighteenth birthday!" Nuñez often
tours and records with Moloney and The Chieftains, who refer to him as their
seventh member. He was the inspiration for and sat in on their lively,
Grammy-winning foray into Galician music, Santiago (RCA Victor), which also
featured Linda Ronstadt and Los Lobos.
The Chieftains returned the favor on Nuñez' first solo record, Brotherhood
Of Stars (RCA Victor - 1997), along with Triona and Michael O'Domhnaill (Ireland), the ubiquitous American guitar whiz Ry Cooder, the Basque accordionist Kepa Junkera, and the Portuguese new fado star Dulce Pontes. Nuñez' second
album, Os Amores Libres (RCA Victor - 2000), is even more geographically
far-flung, featuring personalities from Ireland, Brittany, Israel, Spain,
Morocco, Rumania. The result is as truthful and focused as it is erudite and
entertaining. He has also recorded and toured with the Swiss New Age harpist,
Andreas Vollenweider and his haphazardly international back-up crew and the
varied influences seem to have liberated Nuñez' creativity. "When I first
started to play, I was more rational. Now, especially after working with
flamenco, I discovered this whole wild side. I improvise a lot now, but I
didn't years ago."
He plans to further explore North African music, although this has sometimes
created controversy at home. "At first, I was only interested in the Celtic
world." he says, "The Chieftains, sometimes they told me, 'Carlos, that
sounds almost like flamenco' and I would say 'This is NOT flamenco! This is
Galician!' This was like comparing Irish music with English! Then, I
discovered flamenco; Paco de Lucia and Carmen Linares. I think now Galicians
understand that we have something in common with flamenco. If there is a
Latin Celtic music, this is Galicia, a place between both worlds." He is
eager to focus on South American music, a process that began with Santiago.
"This is another connection - Cuba, Argentina, Venezeula." he explains
enthusiastically, "In Latin America, there are Galicians everywhere. In
Buenos Aires, Argentina, there are 1 million Galicians. The father of Fidel
Castro was Galician - Castro is a Galician name!"
Does he think that the current trend toward cross-cultural experiments in
world music are moving too fast ? "This is something very old." he muses,
"Galician music is already a fusion. We have waltzes, rumbas from Latin
America, tangos from Argentina, and fandangos and jotas from flamenco. Each
kind of music is like a cathedral, with different styles superimposed over
the centuries; the romantic, the gothic, the baroque, the neo-classical. A
cathedral is the work of many generations, so is traditional music. The
experiment that works is the experiment that happens naturally."
Listen to Carlos Nuñez on CBC's Global Village
RootsWorld Reviews:
Os Amores Libres
Santiago (Chieftains)
Read more about the music of Galicia
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